As I found from this last update, you don’t really need to worry about having a spare hotdog voucher to get that event as by the end of this version if you did every hotdog challenge you will have enough for all four of your co-workers. It then becomes a matter of how soon you want to see that scene as once you get to that weight threshold to trigger the rude co-worker you can give her a voucher and later the vial.
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how to i enter the shadow curio shop after i get too big
If your do not have the Golden Dabolion you will not be able to get back inside
i already used it for the fairy
I’m gonna be a bit blunt and say you should start looking to recode the game in a different Twine engine. The game is too big (lol) and too repetitive to keep making the player replay it every time their cache gets cleared. No ability to export saves and having to go through the slow process of gaining weight, increasing gluttony, expanding your coworkers’ waistlines, and everything again and again every update is not a pleasant thought.
I understand you want to do a lot of back-end work after the game is “done” and there will be major updates that just break saves anyway, but it is important for even newbie game devs to learn how to create stable updates and build upon a game, as well as making sure everyone can witness them.
I know I enjoyed the cute art, the variety of events and scenarios, the dom/sub play you can get invovled with the love interests, and even just simply simping for the streamer! But none of the content is engaging enough for me to want to do it again every time I update my BROWSER!!
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Then ask fairy about it (after she gets to your place)
No one is forcing you to do it again, you could just wait for the full release if you don’t find value in replaying it.
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This is the main reason I haven’t played through this in a while, every save I did have ended up with some game breaking/content blocking bug that would be fixed in the next update, but that bug would still be applied to my save. That and the mindless clicking to get back to where I was means I’ve in a loop of waiting for the next update, seeing more bugs reported that get fixed, update, bugs, fix, update, bugs, fix etc., so I’m never actually wanting to play up to the current end of content in case I find another bug that means I’ll have to restart to fix in the next update.
Even leaving aside the player frustrations, reworking everything behind the scenes will make the game a lot easier to make going forwards rather than getting to the end and then basically remaking the whole thing. It’s always better to have a solid framework to build off of instead of some flashy lights duct taped together and prone to falling apart.
@Aleece I’ll try to separate my general dislike of the “if you don’t like it don’t play it” mentality from this, but if people are being pushed away from a game by a certain feature or quality then that needs to be brought up, else nothing would be changed and more people would be silently pushed away. Whether that issue is huge or small, it’s still an issue that could potentially be resolved to the benefit of the game as a whole.
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For what it’s worth, I’m also of the opinion of “just wait for the full release.
I understand the frustrations with needing to start over every update, but it kinda comes with the territory when you play a game in a prerelease state. I personally don’t mind starting over because of the content every update that has been added to the earlier weight stages.
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Thank you all for the feedback, this is useful information for sure. Developing this game using the Harlowe format has turned out to be the biggest cause of strife for me from a dev stand point. The idea of switching to a new format that is using differnet code language is quite daunting though. I’m worried that it would kill my motivation to continue with the game to redo most of the work that I have already put into it. But considering the most common complaint that I have heard has been in regard to the lack of a proper save function and my inability to make one with how the game is at the moment has been a source of frustration to say the least. So, though it would likely mean a large amount of time till the next release, I will work on getting the game programmed into a differnet format.
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Demanding someone remakes the entire game from scratch because you dislike how something is currently working is just entitlement to the next level. OP is making a project for fun and has no obligations to this community at all, it’s a free fetish game - not the next title from Bethesda
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Lmao, “demanding”, sure.
Pointing out a potential flaw, or offering advice, or giving a suggestion for something to be added does not equal a forceful demand. Nor does defending the ability to do such things. If no such comments are given and a developer - any developer - is left in an echo chamber of positive comments then that opens their game up to mistakes and oversights that will likely never be noticed.
If I, or anyone else, had come in guns blazing with scathing comments based on the game engine then of course that should be punished, but that isn’t the case here. Free games aren’t immune to criticism, and if no criticism were given then nothing would improve. This is true for practically everything in life, and so long as it’s given in a fair and reasoned manner then there should be no issue with it.
While I may sometimes come across as condescending (especially with my tendency to write long spiels like this) and will take criticism on that, I won’t stand for being called demanding and entitled simply for voicing my opinion on a matter.
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I made a save as file functionality button for this game, I originally created this as a userscript for personal use (because I love this game), I thought it would be good to show you.
to use it, just put this inside of output html, inside head tag after title.
<head>
<title>Big Aspirations WIP</title>
<!-- here -->
</head>
If you want some modifications, I’ll fix it!
currently it only works well only “a new day starts” screen.
it shows on every screen for now, but I can hide it if you want.
<script>
{
const realSessionStorage = window.sessionStorage;
let sessionCache = {};
Object.defineProperty(window, 'sessionStorage', {
get: () => {
return {
getItem: (key) => {
return realSessionStorage.getItem(key);
},
setItem: (key, value) => {
sessionCache[key] = value;
console.log(sessionCache)
return realSessionStorage.setItem(key, value);
},
removeItem: (key) => {
delete sessionCache[key];
return realSessionStorage.removeItem(key);
},
clear: () => {
sessionCache = {};
return realSessionStorage.clear();
},
key: (index) => {
return realSessionStorage.key(index);
}
}
}
})
function styleDom(dom){
dom.style.position = 'absolute';
dom.style.right = '5px';
dom.style.cursor = 'pointer';
dom.style.zIndex = '99'
dom.style.color = 'white';
dom.style.backgroundColor = 'black';
dom.style.padding = '5px';
dom.style.borderRadius = '5px';
dom.style.border = '1px solid white';
dom.style.fontSize = '12px';
}
function loadSaveDom(){
{
const saveDom = document.createElement('div');
saveDom.style.top = '5px';
styleDom(saveDom);
saveDom.innerText = 'save';
document.body.appendChild(saveDom);
saveDom.addEventListener('click', () => {
//get all sessionStorage keys
const keys = Object.keys(sessionCache);
//create object to store all sessionStorage keys and values
const storage = {};
//loop over keys and add to storage object
keys.forEach(key => {
storage[key] = sessionCache[key];
})
//save storage object to json file
const storageString = JSON.stringify(storage);
const storageBlob = new Blob([storageString], {type: 'application/json'});
const storageUrl = URL.createObjectURL(storageBlob);
const storageLink = document.createElement('a');
//download json file
storageLink.href = storageUrl;
storageLink.download = 'save.json';
storageLink.click();
})
const loadDom = document.createElement('div');
loadDom.style.top = '35px';
styleDom(loadDom);
loadDom.innerText = 'load';
document.body.appendChild(loadDom);
loadDom.addEventListener('click', () => {
const fileInput = document.createElement('input');
fileInput.type = 'file';
fileInput.accept = 'application/json';
fileInput.click();
fileInput.addEventListener('change', () => {
const file = fileInput.files[0];
const reader = new FileReader();
reader.readAsText(file);
reader.addEventListener('load', () => {
const storageString = reader.result;
const storage = JSON.parse(storageString);
const keys = Object.keys(storage);
keys.forEach(key => {
sessionStorage.setItem(key, storage[key]);
})
window.location.reload();
})
})
})
}
}
setTimeout(loadSaveDom, 100)
}
</script>
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People are commenting on this thread because they like the game, and want to see it get better. Being overly antagonistic and shutting down valid criticism isn’t really helpful to anyone, especially when the developer seems open to listening to people’s issues with the game and addressing them. Because someone brought up the issue of the save system, it prompted @hamadana to very generously share a fix to the issue. Reasonable and well-meaning critique is nothing but good for a game, so there’s no need to start a flame war over it.
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I know that asking for a whole code rework is pretty entitled, it isn’t like I say every RPGMaker game should be made in Unity. But when even the dev agrees that using the format is painful for them as it is for the playerbase, I think a switch might be warranted. You don’t even need a new version of the game to be released, simply restarting your computer or Itch.io updating their web host is enough to lose all your progress. Even if there is a full downloadable release years in the future, you still wouldn’t be able to save properly with Harlowe. Given that this long since outstripped being a simple coffeebreak fap dealio, I think it is more than a little fair to say the ability to save should be put more on the forefront over more content.
Plus it is still Twine at the end of the day. It’s not that complex a language and much of what was learnt with Harlowe can be used with something like SugarCube. Or simply just take what @hamadana did.
EDIT: I would also like to bring up that “don’t like it; don’t play it” doesn’t hold water because if I want to see new content added in because I DO like it or the sound of it, I have to play through the entire game again, even if the early sections haven’t been reworked…
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Sugarcube isn’t a huge jump from Harlowe from what I’ve seen since they are both twine engines. If you wanted gamer, I enjoy reverse engineering things, as well I have a decent understanding of sugarcube. I’m pretty sure I could translate your game if you wanted and help you understand the basics of sugarcube and it’s formatting. Plus it’s got a built in save feature.
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It’s difficult with all the opposing opinions, but I have to add my own here as well.
I think the goal is to be happy with your own work and project to get your vision out. I would strongly recommend focusing on what works for you and your current work flow to keep up momentum and achieve what you can reach for. If you decide to start a new project, then I would recommend changing engines or trying something new. If you burn your resources now trying to rejigger everything, there will be less to go towards developing more content.
The only way I would suggest changing tracks now is if you were to bring other dependable team members into the fold to help start you up. This is hella risky, as it will definitely destroy your existing workflow. But this would be worth it if your vision is much larger in scope than what your current trajectory is.
TLDR: Stick with what you know and get to the finish line. WIth a new project, try new things.
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I can tell you from experience that your worries are quite valid, reformatting a fleshed out Twine game from Harlowe to another format (such as Sugarcube) can be quite the daunting task. While I do believe it to be a worthwhile endeavor if you are able to pull it off, it can be a pretty big if. I only recommend the retooling option if you are confident that you’re able to commit since a good game with engine limitations is better than no game on a better engine.
That said, if you do end up making the switch I highly recommend Sugarcube, while it is missing some of the straightforwardness of Harlowe, it more than makes up for it with its versatility thanks to being able to mesh so well with Javascript code (which is fairly optional knowledge).
Also, I can attest to LupusGamer’s abilities in working on Twine games. He has been quite the help on building and reworking parts of my latest project, so I am quite sure he could get the job done. Also, if you have any questions, feel free to send them my way, and I’ll see what I can do to help.
EDIT: Nice game btw.
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I personally would rather you just keep going with the current version for now if a rework will be difficult and time consuming, and maybe add a quick start/“easy” mode where you start with extra money or something to make it faster for returning players, then when it’s closer to content completion maybe work on that element
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Honestly I like restarting from scratch. It’s what makes the game feel so fun to start over and continue playing it till the end. But also I have a lot of free time to play the game. Honestly can’t stop loving the game and I try to play it a few days over and over cuz it’s fun.
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