Project Bob (Ravenous' Uncle)

I just wanted to say that despite spelling issues and some inconveniences, this game is all I ever wanted. I can’t wait to see how it evolves!

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I can generate colored clothing images if you like.

Ok so, anyone who has peaked at the code would probably knows i have a lot of the player descriptions written, the hold up on the player descriptions is the boobs. Your bust size does not exactly translated to cup size so when describing a character you can have a 34A boobs which means you have a 33 inch band and 34 inch bust or 34D which is a 30 inch band and 34 inch bust. What i cannot find is really any discernible pattern to how your band size changes with weight gain in comparison to your bust. So i’m looking for suggestions on what do to, in regards to a players band size during weight gain. Should the character just always have the same cup size meaning its a simple band is always bust minus cup size. Any all info and suggestions are welcome.

I don’t think that’s quit right. Band size is the underbust measurement and is a real measurement (though some countries add/subtract a number to this for historical reasons - I’m looking at you USA, and obviously use different units) of the ribcage and any fat padding. From a code point of view you then need to know either:

  • the breast volume (or mass - easy to convert), which you can use to find the wire-size/cup diameter, and with that and the band size you can lookup the cup size (again different for different countries, and sometimes manufacturers).
  • or the over-bust measurement (or calculate this based on assumptions about weight/volume and shape).

You’ll find Calculating cup volume and breast weight towards the bottom of the wikipedia article.

Having said that I suspect many people (and the majority of men who haven’t coded a game that deals with bra sizes) don’t understand that, say, a 38A 36B 34C 32D 30E 28F all have the same “volume”, and doing it correctly may become a bit of a trade off against explaining why a bigger girl can have a “smaller” cup.

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I’ve gotten stuck on the exercise bug again. can send save file if that will help.

Edit: seems it just told me i didn’t want to exercise but did. when i reselected exercise it let me continue.

Edit 2: adding onto this, it keeps doing it, having it deselect exercise and select to continue the game.

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Please do send save so i can look at whats going on, the problem here is not a bug per say but rather im trying to balance equations that i cant always know the value of variables for making it hard to pre-evaluate them to check if it will fail at some point.

Most manufacturers and brands base their cup size on or instruct you to estimate your cup size using the band bust method, in my research of clothing sizing and how its determined. Even though its really a volume problem you can estimate that volume using the two measurements. The Wikipedia artical linked, even says this. My numbers may be off because it was off the top of my head as an example. However below is from the wiki page

Cup measurement methods[edit]

Bra-wearers can calculate their cup size by finding the difference between their bust size and their band size.[60][62] The bust size, bust line measure, or over-bust measure is the measurement around the torso over the fullest part of the breasts, with the crest of the breast halfway between the elbow and shoulder,[63] usually over the nipples,[64] ideally while standing straight with arms to the side and wearing a properly fitted bra.[54] This practice assumes the current bra fits correctly. The measurements are made in the same units as the band size, either inches or centimetres. The cup size is calculated by subtracting the band size from the over-the-bust measurement.[65][66]

Pictogram for the European bra size 70B using EN 13402-1

All from the Wikipedia.

Here you go, that should have worked.

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That appears to be working as intended, with current variables you got a little bit of an unlucky rng here, causing you to have to exercise. Understand your character is currently 129lbs over their target weight, they will wanna exercise eventually.

Also note i closed this loophole

I understand that they will want to exercise. though i’m not mashing start day to get past it. simply changing off exercise, clicking start day, then changing back to progress.

So in the case of unlucky rng, is there a way to fix it?

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If you click start day with no exercise actions and your character wants to exercise, it will not let you start the day until at least one exercise action is selected(you can pick sedentary for the option). If you try to restart the day without it picked by going in and out of the day planer this will not fix anything. There is no cheating it or getting past it and not exercising.

Everything is done on a day by day basis and your character can change their mind for various reasons between days mainly do to things that happened and stats and variables of theirs that changed.

You’re misunderstanding, and i think i’m explaining this poorly.

My character says she does not want to exercise, so i put no actions for exercise. i click start day, and it tells me she wants to exercise. i do as it asks and start the day again, and it lets me proceed through the day. getting to the exercise, my character says she can’t be bothered.

I have to repeat this pretty much every day to progress.

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Unfortunately, this method starts to fall apart for bigger girls (inevitably the subject of the problem here - it mostly hangs together up to a D-ish cup), and the assumption that a correctly fitted bra is already available is an inherently recursive part of the problem in the real world. Doubly so when the individual in question is virtual?

I’ve written this code for my own game, and getting realistic results for the bust measurement is non-trivial - you can’t assume they are hemispherical. Given the obvious care you’ve taken with realism, I’d recommend the volume route as by far the easier of the two - I went the other way so I can eventually do vector art.

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Ok, using the release version 1.4.1 using your save if i set the first action to exercise and the exercise option to sedentary your character makes it past all checks and does the exercise going for a short walk. doing the same thing any future day past the save point has the same result.

I’ve just done exactly that, and the next day it tells me that i don’t need to exercise, so i try to start but then it tells me i do need to exercise.

it goes back to the loop i described earlier

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Ok wrote this whole long response then decided my point was lost in length. My problem is determining if/how much weight the boob gains relative to other parts of the body, not its exact value.

By the way I have played your game and your work is fantastic.

when i try to open day planner on my loaded character it gives me the error “uName”, are 1.3.1 saves not compatible with 1.4.1?

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yeah. updates make previous saves uncompatible.

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Are there enough clothing items in the store with the revamped clothing sizes?

  • Yes
  • No

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Do the baggy and slim clothing sizes help with the different body shapes?

  • Yes
  • No

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Another error log on being given a cupcake. though it doesn’t seem to trigger every time.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/p_party.rpy", line 117, in <module>
TypeError: 'int' object has no attribute '__getitem__'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "start_day.rpyc", line 12, in script call
  File "dp_check.rpyc", line 586, in script call
  File "start_day.rpyc", line 12, in script call
  File "p_party.rpyc", line 30, in script
  File "C:\Users\Me\Desktop\Bob-Alpha1.4.1-pc\Bob-Alpha1.4.1-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 914, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
  File "C:\Users\Me\Desktop\Bob-Alpha1.4.1-pc\Bob-Alpha1.4.1-pc\renpy\python.py", line 2028, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec bytecode in globals, locals
  File "game/p_party.rpy", line 117, in <module>
TypeError: 'int' object has no attribute '__getitem__'

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
Bob Alpha1.4.1
Tue Aug 18 17:45:50 2020
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