After doing some thinking, I’ve come to a decision.
I’m rescinding Rule 2 and replacing it with a new one:
You may make your own leupai OCs, as long as you are respectful to the source material.
Think of it this way. Either:
My fears were confirmed and they took their own life, meaning nobody is around to stop us, and it’ll keep their memory alive regardless.
They literally do not care.
They return and ask us to stop - In which case, if you’re reading this, Leupai, I’d be glad to stop, as long as we are allowed to keep our pre-existing leups, and that I can have some time for me (and possibly a few others) to have an at-length interview with you about the leupai species and their lore.
And if you are here to ask me to stop, Leupai, please contact me. My discord username is “unknownCleric”, but I also have a Twitter (@/AdSentaro), a Bluesky (in the event they ever add DMs, mine is @/unknowncleric.bsky.social), a Telegram (UnknownCleric), and hell, even a FurAffinity (UnknownCleric2420). Anything works.
I’ve recently been contacted on discord by an absolute chad by the name of Duerde who themselves have also been archiving a bunch of info about leupai, a lot of which I was, in fact, missing!
They provided me with a link to a Tumblr post detailing all of the leupai subtypes that existed at the time - I say “at the time” because Boundless seems to have code suggesting more were created, but not expanded upon. Said post also contains a much more at-length version of the unused library text I mentioned above in post 12!
Also, another interesting detail, with quotes from a conversation between me and Duerde.
Duerde: Yeah they get their energy from their innate connection to revecroir
Which is their home dimension
Which they’re NEVER in
You wanna guess why?
(“they” referring to the leupai species) unknownCleric: why is that? Duerde: You know how leupidotoxins can turn people into leupai?
Regardless of species, sex, chemical makeup, etc?
How do you think it differentiates between people and like. Rocks unknownCleric: …
oh
lemme guess
it doesn’t Duerde: Yeah
So, long story short… unknownCleric: so the entire dimension has become a living creature Duerde: Yes
Their entire dimension turned into a leupai.
Thus creating Reverix.
Occasionally, an itty bitty part of them will poke through into another reality…
And entirely consume a planet or two.
Giving birth to Reverix planets
It’s technically the strongest lifeform to ever exist just because it’s technically one supermassive fyynling.
Except it’s big enough that if you tried to absorb it it’d absorb you instead
But yeah long story short leupai don’t need to eat or breath to survive as long as they aren’t hurt
As long as they have connection to the Reveric planes, they’re able to live forever
Just, they WILL die if they’re separated from it
Like not instantly
But it is painful iirc
TL:DR: The entirety of the leupai species’ home universe has become one massive living entity, and their connection to it is what keeps them alive. Separation from it will result in immense pain and inevitable death.
in regards to your first point, this post on tumblr (taken at face value) basically says that leupai is alive and still creating, but completely off the internet since their work has been plagerized multiple times, including by a former long term partner, and doesn’t want to deal with that possibility/other people’s expectations. so they probably aren’t dead.
Oof… Should I perhaps go back on that “you can make Leupai OCs” statement I made? I feel like I may have overstepped boundaries I didn’t know were still there. Fuck…
Mini-vent ahead, but people are fucking cruel sometimes.
I love the internet, but I also fucking hate it at times like these. Sometimes people never face consequences for their actions, and those who do wrong can always just return, no matter what you do, and it’s not right. The person who stole from Leupai is still out there making art, and from what I can tell, they’re still running with their stolen species. I won’t lie, part of me wants to confront them physically, but I know that it’d only make things worse than they already are. I just hope that one day they realize their mistakes. Until then, I hope they never sleep well at night.
As it turns out, we have explicit confirmation from Leupai’s partner that you are allowed to create your own leups! I’ve posted the rules above, but here’s the relevant screenshot again just in case.
So, yes, I have indeed been able to contact Leupai’s partner, mirapheonix (formerly known as weredrakka). Big thanks to 2-36 for linking mirapheonix’s recent Tumblr post regarding why Leupai left, it helped out a lot.
And of course, big thanks to mirapheonix themselves for letting me share our messages!
(Final point is cut off since I didn’t want to publicly state their discord.)
TL:DR:
The Revecroir universe means a lot to both of us. Mirapheonix has agreed to talk about it, but will only release information that Leupai is willing to (mainly content that has already been released). Yes, Leupai is alive and well! They were both impressed that I had established firm boundaries, and was willing to respect theirs. 4chan users are assholes, Riftclaw was an abusive thief, don’t support either of them. Also, reiterating Rule 1 of the thread.
I’ll be combing through our Discord DMs for info next. nwn
I’m glad to hear that Leupai is doing ok! Honestly, one of the things I’d do if I had a time machine is go back in time to warn them about 4chan and those heartless thieves that stole their work. Ever since I played BOUNDLESS (one of the good versions, mind you) I’ve been extremely fascinated by it! My heart weeps to know what has happened to its current state.
Yeah, good to hear they’re doing okay. I always found their games and the setting to be pretty fascinating, and I’m grateful for what they shared. Understandable at this point about not sharing any further given the circumstances - I just hope they’re able to find their peace and I give well wishes from a random internet stranger.
Between this and the last couple of posts I have to say, it’s been quite wonderful to get some closure on all of this, probably the best case scenario I’ve been hoping for. Leupai is alive and well and now we get to fill in the blanks in the setting the Internet Archive left behind (well, mostly, there’s a lot of art I’d like to have seen but you take what you can get). You guys’ve been doing god’s work right there and I’m sure everyone in this thread profits from it.
I for one am not really an OC creating guy (although I make some art from time to time) and there are creatures I like better from the universe, but the fact you’re now officially allowed to create leupai OCs leaves me ever so slightly intrigued.
Although, that does beg the question; where exactly does the stuff I’ve done in this thread before fall in terms of “taking and modding the game”, in miraphoenix’s words? I know we’ve gone over this before but now I can’t help but wonder if I’ve stepped over a line, even if just in terms of activating unused code and the like.
I’ll try and ask them - you’re probably fine, since it’s content that was originally planned for Boundless anyways, so it’s technically already “out there”. But we’ll see - just, you know, don’t go adding dicks to everything : p
I drew my girlfriend a leupsona, her name is Heinora and she works at a Fatiere ^^
The text, in the Latin alphabet:
“Sweetie… you look way too thin. Thankfully, I have just the solution to that.~”
Caves of Crypts Fatiere
Current Prices: Buying Fat: 10 consiee for 25 Gi. Forcefeeding: 10 consiee/10 rounds.
We do not purchase fat from those under 150 Gi. We will offer our services to you at a discount. Rates fluctuate based on local demand.
(Yes the sign is meant to be nearly 1 to 1 with the in-game menu for Fatieres : p)
…should I make a Discord server for this thread? :o
I’d probably still end up trying to maintain this thread, at least for a bit, but… iunno, I think it’d be fun to talk about leup stuff on there. uwu
