Sorry, but of all drugs this is the only one that directly affects the people around you. So if you need some drug to come clear with your life - take a different one!
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Iâd argue most drugs affect the people around you. Maybe not directly like second hand smoking, but often in indirect ways. For example, a lot of hard drugs will cause a lot of mental strain (usually stress) on anyone that cares about the people who take them, alcohol impairs motor skills and decision making, which can cause a lot accidents via dumb decisions etc.
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Well first off no oneâs saying that you should be taking drugs, and second, unlike those other substances there is a direct effect that smoking has on other people, even if you donât know the person. A junkie shooting up in his apartment isnât going to damage my lungs like a stranger smoking in the train-car Iâm sitting in
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Guess Iâll âchime inâ here, heh.
Ultimately, itâs your choice, and I get it, âbut what about those around you?â And true, but itâs kinda like this in my opinion: you can take anything in the store, you never have to go to jail, but people will try to put you in it. Basically, technically you can smoke, as no one can control what you physically do, itâs just that usually, someone will get harmed when you smoke.
Ultimately, I could care less if someone lit a cigarette next to me, and I get it, itâs still bad for you to be next to it, but I really donât care about the 2 minutes of life I lost, but if someone else has a problem with it, then itâs up to the smoker to decide in my opinion, same thing with weight gain, it is ultimately your choice.
Anywho, Iâll likely get a hundred negative comments on this, and I donât really blame you, as itâs impossible to say what I said without angering someone, so if you have a problem, I will gladly listen, just please donât start shooting me down, personally, weâd all benefit from a calm conversation. With that said, I hope everyone reading this has a swell day!
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I wasnât trying to say that people are advocating using drugs, what I was trying to do is refute the point that cigarettes are not the only drug affecting people around you, and I did acknowledge that most other drugs donât affect people directly. From my personal experience even with the second hand smoke (which is an anecdote, so take it with a grain of salt), I really donât think it does a whole of damage to peopleâs health in small doses (unless they have asthma or some other lung condition). A large portion of my extended family on both sides smokes and no one has suffered any ill effects from second hand smoke despite both sides also having a history of heart disease. Ultimately, all Iâm saying is a few minutes of exposure isnât going to do anything to people without existing lung issues.
Hope this post doesnât come off as rude, Iâm just trying to explain my position and text doesnât convey tone very well.
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Yeah I see what your trying to say, and from my personal anecdote I really just hate smoking because I hate how shady the tobacco companies are. Like they keep trying to shill the idea that itâs not that bad and market towards kids in the form of E-cigs, which are still terrible for you if youâre not using them to quit. My cousin whoâs only in their mid-20s went from having strong lungs to extremely messed up lungs just by smoking Vapes throughout their late teens and 20s
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Yeah, personally, I never got was so âcoolâ about vapes, like, theyâre just cigarettes, but itâs healthy all of a sudden? Even if it somehow wasnât unhealthy, itâs still expensive, so either way, itâs not exactly a great bargain.
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I was actually almost tricked into thinking vapeing was healthy although i had no idea how vaping worked but at the time I thought it was just a type of mist that had different scents luckily I wasnât interested in what I thought it was either.
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I donât think you should do any drugs even if they are legal to do (Iâm looking at you alcohol). I think being addicted to anything isnât good, even if that thing is completely harmless.
so put me in the âitâs cool to say noâ camp.
that being said
I do like the smell of smoke when it isnât to strong (when I had to clean a frozen ashtray was one of the worst smells I have ever smelled) and there is a sort of classiness you can pull off if you do it right (or brutishness if you prefer that). I donât think I would call it sexy but I donât really have a better word for it other than attractive
I havenât given this much thought but I believe that smoking is more attractive if you like men instead of women. smoke is more of a manly smell and doing anything with fires is more of a manly activity if you ask me. basically I think it makes some aspects more manly and if you donât want someone to be manly you wonât find it attractive.
when it comes to vaping there isnât really anything attractive about it to me. the big clouds like nice I guess but itâs completely separate from the person unlike with traditional smoking (also the sound is annoying).
as for it being the only drug that directly effects others I donât think that is true but I donât think there have been much/any research on the effects from second hand weed, heroin, crack or opium smoke.
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Honestly, the whole âmanlyâ thing makes a lot of sense now that you mention it. As for me, I also agree that being addicted sucks, though, I take it probably too far (as in, I never drink coffee, cause I mean, I never need to rely on it, so why drink it and become reliant on it?)
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I am the same. I jokingly tell my parents that you shouldnât use drugs when they ask if I want coffee
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Well if you smell hot coffee just before you drink it your brain immediately wants you to drink it immediately since there is the caffeine.
I think the core issue why smoking is rather diverse is that people can easily tell if you are one; smelling like smoke, obvious leaving certain areas for a few minutes, and even the tinge of your teeth (though that can be connected to heavy amounts of soda or tea). With commercials about the dangers of smoking (talking to you Adult Swim, almost every break there is a smoking ad), it is quite more shameful and easy to demote it as a danger in the eyes of most people.
Strangely it is similar to weight gain as the societal norms is heavily biased against obvious health issues. The core difference is that weight isnât something you can quit âcold turkeyâ since it takes time and effort to lose. If one thinks about it, the irony that by hating smoking or weight issues in the open you end up causing most people to do it much more heavily in private (smokers may increase to more cigarettes, obese may binge or stress eat).
One that can harm other around while another is viewed disgusting, though weirdly can you argue one fits the other solely?
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I always tell people to never smoke. Mostly my family. And all in honestly Iâll tell them to smoke weed instead as it is much less worse than cigarettes. (I donât smoke weed)
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My family donât smoke. I have a very negative attitude towards smoking. I personally donât smoke and donât drink alcohol.
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Having lost several family members to smoking related cancers, I fight the urge to literally smack people when I see them smoking. Especially when they are smoking in areaâs they shouldnât.
With all the information available now about the harmful effects of smoking it leaves me dumbfounded that people STILL smoke and/or decide to smoke.
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Well, this has quickly become my most, eh, popular topic. I suppose my comparison between smoking and weight gain wasnât entirely accurate, and I should have specified voluntary weight gain.
Personally Iâd much prefer if people didnât smoke but I wonât grill them over it if they do. Iâve found that making people annoyed doesnât get results, even if you have good intentions. Making your opinion known but not forcing it tends to get more positive results. Youâll stay on the good side of those who want to quit, and you wonât waste your breath on those who donât.
As for why people do it to begin with, for a lot of people itâs good old-fashioned peer pressure, and then they get hooked. Dumb teenagers encouraging each other to do it to look cool and mature. I donât see any other reason to do it. People say itâs relaxing, and I guess it is in a sense, but itâs not a positive kind of relaxation. Itâs more like your body just gets really heavy and thereâs a weighted blanket draped over your brain. Itâs a sensation Iâd only describe as desirable if you were going through some serious shit mentally and needed ANYTHING at all to take some of the edge off. Even then, thereâs a million better things you can do.
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Well itâs not surprising itâs really popular people like to share their opinions and smoking is pretty controversial there are few reasons to defend smoking though most are weak stupid reasons but the most popular one for those who defend smoking by saying âwhat if the person wants to dieâ? This defense has itâs flaws as well but still isnât good enough to justify smoking.
I wanted to come back to this topic to let you that I wrote it. Thought Iâd let you and @Hyperion know since Hyperion had the idea 
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Just seeing this now, so figured I would chime in. Smoking falls squarely for me in the okay if a friend does it, but I wouldnât ever date someone who does it. It is a pretty gross thing to me, and Iâm really not a fan. But people are going to do it, and as long as people are respectful about not doing it right in front of me then I have no issue if friends or others do it.
I wish I didnât like smoking, and I wish I wasnât addicted to them. But I do and I am. I would discourage anyone from starting, itâs a hard addiction to beat. Iâve quit several times over the last 15 years for extended periods, most recently by substituting for vapes, but I always end up falling off the wagon eventually (usually after a few pints in a beer garden). And yes, I do find women who smoke attractive, I donât know why.
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