Would definitely like a ‘fitness’ thing to various extremes depending on how much you’re willing to delve into it. Could have extremely poor fitness, based on diet and how sedentary the player keeps the MC, and then have extremely good fitness. Reduces the amount of sweat the MC generates whenever going out and about. Or, with poor fitness, can get sweaty from just going out and about. Maybe heavily reduced daily activities - takes longer to get from point A to point B, hence limiting what one can do in the day because of it. Maybe further mentions of poor fitness - heavy breathing, pounding heart, aching limbs, etc, or to further extremes if that’s your thing.
I cannot speak to the other inclusions you’re asking for (especially in altering sweatiness or adding descriptions of how in-shape you are), but there is presently a stamina system in the game, starting with when you reach chapter 2. It’s somewhat under the hood, but exercising more often does increase the number of actions you can do before getting worn out during each day. So one aspect of what you’re asking for has been implemented, in a way.
Well I could try betatesting and betareading it if you guys need that help, possibly trouble shoot some ideas and how to implement in terms of storyline and plot stuff, mayhaps spitball and crosspollinate concepts
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Version 0.6 - Change log:
— Chapter 3 transition can be triggered and completed: You will need 31+ Days post treatment, and ABBI complete.
>Chapter 3 Warnings, Notes, and Things to Know<
This event has much different tone than the rest of Plus+ so far, more serious and dark/disturbing.
One screen/passage has 4 errors on the screen, these are just flavor (like ABBI) and can be ignored.
Note this event may take people a varying amount of time due to reading speed, I would just say on average, you will need around 30 minutes for it.
This Chapter transition will be the first with minor dialogue changes / and options depending on a NPCs relationship with the player. With the release I added a menu in options section to see if you are in the needed tier or not called “Hidden Stats”. Also the option to lower the relationship level, should someone want opt out of the dialogue related to it.
—New weight level 1500+ lbs: Still a little work left to do with this weight level, shower description etc.
—Added some extra flavor text during the wander choice screens if the PC is stuffed and over 350 lbs.
— @Somchu Contributed some really cool stuff for this update!
There are now 3 tiers of the Sweaty and Messy Eater Descriptors.
It also came with a random body adjective description tool. This is something that will see more use going forward and as I work my way through old/current content. (IE: Your body may be described as either “corpulent” or “whalelike” for certain events/descriptions.) The word(s) update whenever you sleep, or use the scale.
The side bar also displays your weight from the last time you checked yourself on the scale.
Thank you to our resident , for these wonderful additions.
—Extra dialogue tidbits from ABBI and ADDI when you chat with them: Chapter 3 transition completed, is needed for one of them.
—Extra Toggle Descriptor and Custom Race info:
Toggle/Race Info.
Added ‘Burping’ Descriptor: this is still a WIP, so it will work its way into more past scenes as I go through them - The new full flavor text when wandering will feature this toggle as an easy check to see if its working, let me know if it is and if its to your likings.
Custom Races: Added an “alternative tail” selection (At the end, like the other one), this is for races who have a tail, but not one that gains weight IE: fluffy, cat-like etc. This will not have as much of a presence as the weight gain tail option, but there are some cases where it shares dialogue with the fat tail so its easy enough to plop in.
Fantastic! I’m excited to see what you’ve cooked up with Somchu’s help.
Also, nice! I wasn’t even expecting a fluffy tail option. I assumed it would conflict with the existing option in some way.
Thanks again for all the hard work
Thank you, and you’re welcome.
It was one of those things, where it just clicked was like “Hold up…What if I?” kind of scenario. No descriptions for it or anything. That will fall into the custom section for people to use.
Congrats on the formal enthreadening and new version! A few comments/observations/etc.:
The new event starts with “Before you decide if you are even getting out of bed” even if you fell asleep on the couch. Not a huge deal, though.
The Current Content Plateau option lacks a button to exit, though one can just use the back button.
Some typographical bits:
“it’s as if you were looking straight into a sun, no matter where you advert your gaze.” (should be “avert”).
“It barely has the most basic of anatomys” - should be anatomies, right?
“Tentacles and limb like tendrils of flesh” - should be limbs plural.
"It’s well past time the universe is free of the coward you are” - lacking punctuation at the end.
“Records that were recovered, point towards outlawed expirmination on a living species.” - should be experimentation.
“The thesis of the study was looking at the humans ability to physically store excess nutrients for long term survival.” - should be possessive (human’s or humans’; I guess I’d pick the latter in this case?)
On the whole an interesting update, and nice to see you experimenting with different types of content.
I was so tempted to send you an early version, cause you are always so good at catching my goofs.
-I will definitely take interesting! I know it was off the course a bit, but it opens some doors~
Edit: Got them all fixed up,
Only the
-"Tentacles and limb like tendrils of flesh” - should be limbs plural.-
I changed to “limb-like” as it was my original intention.
Interesting was intended as praise, it was just late and I wanted to hammer something out before flopping into bed.
And given the new weight description I was certainly amused imagining how exactly the character is hoofing it around so well, hah.
Good point on limb-like, that does work better.
Okay! Feedback time! Breaking this up. Fair warning, only the middle collapsed text for “suggestions” is mostly spoiler-free (it would be nice to see if anyone else likes the sound of those suggestions, haha). The first and third sections absolutely spoil some things in the new sequence, so watch out!
Impressions and Feedback
First off, I really like where this is going. Honestly, I think having a more narrative/serious interlude does in fact make for a really nice change of pace from the short-form wandering to have an extended sequence. I do think it’s a good instinct to structure the game this way between chapters, since it adds needed variety and stakes. They needn’t always be so dark tonally, but the structure of it makes perfect sense to me.
I don’t think it was too over-the-top like you were worrying (just the right amount of horror without killing the game’s general vibe, imo), and it got me curious about where the plot was going, and you still managed to incorporate a few appealing WG elements pretty seamlessly as part of the plot (hello, mysterious goo! I’m a protagonist in a WG story. Bottom’s up! )
The map navigation worked very well and was easy to read. Honestly, if you decide to incorporate this sort of gameplay in any future interludes where it’s appropriate, I’d say that it wouldn’t be unwelcome at all. Successful first go at it!
The fake “restart” was also a great segue into the dream sequence.
I am really happy to see how dialogue played out with a higher affinity with a character. It was a really touching wind-down to the interlude and honestly it makes me feel a bit more attached to them (I saw what you did with the tail ). I’m looking forward to seeing more hangouts unlock and seeing how other NPCs might change in similar ways.
I like the multi-stage descriptors and the randomized adjectives! I’m also looking forward to seeing the burp descriptor incorporated further, though I know it’s presently WIP.
Also fond of the extra flavor text when full. Just a nice little touch that further gives your character a little more oomph and a reminder of their current state.
Suggestions
(Suggestion 1) In the case of the doctor, considering the recent change in the closeness of your relationship, is there a possibility the tone of your regular checkups with her might change with greater affinity ratings?
Or perhaps more types of appointment might be also added to the pool as well, as her research gets more in-depth with chapter progression? This could probably happen regardless of affinity.
(Suggestion 2) Now, this one came to mind due to how messy your character can get with the new multi-stage active toggles, plus how obviously large and unwieldy you are…but is there any possibility of adding options for getting yourself clean with some assistance or company, or just without having to go all the way back to your room?
Considering how a lot of recent flavor text indicates that your character seems to enjoy being the subject of affection and attention, I was thinking maybe you can do one or two things:
A) Maybe add a public bath or hot spring (forest zone might be good for the latter), where you can go clean yourself up and then take a little time to relax with the local aliens in the spring. Maybe they take an interest in you or give you a hand scrubbing you down where you can’t reach. Maybe the soothing soak can restore a little energy, too.
I was thinking structuring it like the buffet party with two options - in this case, one option for showering off with the other guests (which removes your sweat/food mess), and another for getting into the hot spring bath and socializing/relaxing (maybe with some snacks and beverages nearby. Staying and soaking could maybe be handled in multiple stages, like the buffet. You can recover more energy by staying longer, but you run the risk of getting all full and sleepy due to the hot water and snacks and drinks being offered to you at each stage.)
B) I don’t know the current in-room shower situation, since the 1500 weight tier isn’t implemented there yet. But (should you be able to access more spacious accommodations later) might there be an option to invite a high-affinity NPC to come shower with you? You may need some help getting clean as you get larger, and it’s also just a very good opportunity for some intimate contact.
Bugs/Typos/Etc
Okay! Some oddities in the current build. @Cordite is a champ, and caught most everything I saw (and a lot I didn’t), but here are some others that I didn’t see mentioned.
-Bug: Aside from the “getting up from bed” situation when sleeping on the couch, there’s another issue. The event triggered every single time I sat on the couch and then got up again, not just upon waking up from sleep. It’s not a huge deal, but I did want to see what happened if I dawdled without initiating the tour with ABBI.
-Awkward wording in passage: “You spend the next few minutes making sure you have everything you could need, why is traveling so stressful… You aren’t even leaving the Facility grounds! Your tail fidgeting nervously as you pace around. There is a minor chance you may have stress ate a few pastries while waiting, but no one can prove that-“
I’d say make “Why is traveling so stressful?” It’s own sentence, instead of appending it to the last sentence with a comma. Also “Your tail fidgets” instead of “fidgeting”, to keep with the proper tense. And I’d go with “stress-eaten” instead of “stress ate”.
-Missing word/comma: “ Even if you were only a couple hundred pounds[,] this would be hard, [because] the angle is off putting and just feels ‘wrong’.”
-Awkward phrasing: “You climb up onto your seat, happy to be seated after that ordeal, [I would put a period here and start a new sentence] getting comfortable, you rest your hands on your soft chest as you wait for the tour to begin.”
-Phrasing: “so there is little to fear when venturing out for their research being it personal or otherwise.” [I’d say put a comma after research, and say “be it”, instead of “being it”.
-Missing word: “ Some of them [are] seemingly untouched, while others look torn open.”
-Phrasing: “ Thankfully this door is open[,] so the emergency lights provide some illumination, [new sentence should start here] you jump a little as your eyes barely catch the outline of an alien soldier kneeling down…”
-Typo and phrasing: “You thought you would never be happier about receiving the treatment then when you were able to move again after becoming immobiile[spelling], [missing “but”] you were wrong. Fight or flight taking [“takes” instead of “taking”] over as your treatment enhanced muscles push you off the floor with the smallest amount of effort you have experienced in a while. Your panicked waddle run, [I’d remove the comma and hyphenate “waddle-run”] does lead to you painfully smashing your excessively wide hips into the door frame as you make your escape.”
Sorry about all that! I hope the proofreading wasn’t too nitpicky! There is one last section here, but it concerns some strangeness I ran into with the prologue and early chapter 1 on my fresh character, who used a custom species name.
-Typo (Checking messages with ABBI in prologue): “Alight, is there anything else I can help you with?"
-Phrasing: (Hanging with engineers in cafeteria) “You happily munch away on all sorts of snacks as the engineers offer you them, happily rubbing your gut as you and the Maintenance Team talk about what’s on your minds” [redundant happily, maybe another choice of word]
Species Choice Oddities
-(during the prologue attack) “The (species name) destroyers and corvettes that had been guarding the dwarf planet … There were a handful of other destroyed ships that clearly weren’t (species name), but only destroyed husks…” [character species name replaces “human”, even if it doesn’t scan right for a multi-species society. Recommend replacing both instances of “human” in the original text with “Terran”, which is consistent with the Terran Forces in the rest of the passage.]
-(examining new room) “The room is rather plain looking, though everything seems to be twice as large as it would normally be, except for the (species name) furniture that the aliens put in here for you.” [Similar problem, replaces “human” with species name, making it sound like its exclusive to your species. Recommend going with a more natural term, like “(species) sized”.]
I think you’re going a great direction with the game and I eagerly await the new zone, plus hopefully some new NPC relationship stuff too
The chapter 3 transition was great! It certainly is a much different tone than the rest of the game, but there’s enough fetishy stuff woven in to make it feel like an expansion to the plot rather than a total genre shift. Looking forward to seeing where you take things from here!
Also want to give a shoutout to your dedication to customization. Its a rare treat to be able to play as a feral in these sorts of games, and now being able to go so far as to specify “fluffy or fleshy tail” takes that a step further. Loving the extra layers to the optional descriptors too.
One small glitch I noticed when messing around with options in the bathroom so I could see all the new descriptors - I wasn’t able to retroactively add a fleshy tail. I think the option is just missing a bracket.
I’d chalk some of these up to merely being stylistic choices myself, but I’m generally more lenient about grammar in the name of style.
Regardless, kudos for the thorough read and spotting.
True…I try to read out loud to check for flow, and it may be that I got tripped up on things that aren’t even a problem for everybody else.
I worry I may have been a little too particular about some of them, but hopefully I caught some stuff worth the attention.
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(I am not sure how well this will go, but I figure it is worth a shot since enough people have asked)
If you wanted to try and create something for Abducted Plus+ I made a “Contributor Guide”. This will disappear if it stresses me out, so don’t take it personally if it goes away. It is also for creating content, not suggesting or requesting. That works best in the main post here.
Spoilers!
Impressions and feedback
— Everyone loves mysterious goo!
— The map navigation will be staying for more ‘involved’ chapter events. Nothing anytime soon will be this long (I say this as the chapter 3 event was also suppose to be ‘not this long’) Chapter 4 will use it too, but there will be much less scenes before and after the wandering part.
— (Very off-topic from your comments talking hangouts but w/e)
In terms of affinity and plot I am not sure how much people would want other major named NPCs besides Halessie in the plot. I don’t want to shove a character people don’t like into someone’s face. I knew people enjoyed Halessie from the comments on the original game so it was fine.
I know you like Kweht, and some others have commented they do.
But still,
On one hand, the vocal few who express they like something, might show that most people are fine with it.
On the other, People are just being polite and not tearing me a new one, if its not their cup of tea.
It seems most comments are requests, suggestions which obviously means those people enjoy it. Cause no one is gonna say, “Hey I hate the game now, thanks for ruining it”. So I have 0 idea if I should just do whatever I want, or what.
There is two more minor “named” characters that are used in chapter 4, but I am honestly not sure how welcome adding named NPCs to plot is.
Suggestions
— 1) Just need more time for the extra affinity stuff but it will come
— More types of appointments is honestly something I did not even think of or consider before, so very much kudos for that.
— 2B) So yeah… Extra bathroom interactions with high affinity NPCs is actually planned for the larger accommodations which are totally not a thing ever happening. So please stay out my head (this is a joke)
Bugs/Typos
You have a lot there so for the sake time etc
I changed a good amount of them, but not all. Some of the typos/phrasing offered may be grammatically correct, but definitely read differently than I was going for. So yes, some are just me being me. While you did also catch some stuff worth the attention.
I am glad you enjoyed it, 1st half of new zone is a priority now~
@noneexpect Thank you very much, I am glad it came out great~
Tail comment
— The tail was indeed bugged, thank you very much for finding that.
— Rare treat indeed! I know that’s a starved medium so I felt obligated to fill it, I won’t pretend its widely used. But having at least one other vastly different body type helps create the other so the dev time to it is pretty much doesn’t exist. It does wonders to create the normal build description as it makes me describe how it’s NOT the normal build. Which in turn describes the normal build haha.
Yeah the fluffy tail only took a few keystrokes to add in once I thought of a way to do it. I feel bad it won’t get as many lines, but I figure some is better than none.
Sir, I hate to point it out but if you’re worried about criticism, this hound advises simply acknowledging you can’t please everyone and simply do what you deem right or what you want, you’re ringmaster of this act, the director of the show, we are the audience, some come because of the quality, some because we are bored or looking for porn(no the internet is not purely for it despite what that parody says), some because of curiosity, you will never please them all especially those looking for something to complain about or insult because their own lives suck, simply do as you will, your the captain of this ship and we are along for the ride for good or ill, and if things are not our cup of tea then we’ll say it, I will do so politely and explain why it isn’t then give my own 2 cents on a possible improvement
The only one right now is simply stop worrying since if you get bogged down in details your doubt will wear you down like one of my hole riddled socks, do as you will, hell take a break if you need to, have fun, this is yours to do with as you please and the only one it ultimately needs to please is you, us anonymous strangers across the world can wait and be ignored if we get to be ungrateful for the Free game you are allowing us to play
On one hand, the vocal few who express they like something, might show that most people are fine with it. On the other, People are just being polite and not tearing me a new one, if its not their cup of tea.
It seems most comments are requests, suggestions which obviously means those people enjoy it. Cause no one is gonna say, “Hey I hate the game now, thanks for ruining it”. So I have 0 idea if I should just do whatever I want, or what.
If you’re asking my two cents, do what you want as your first instinct, and just focus on what people are saying, instead of a hypothetical “just being polite”. Internalizing anything else is just whether you feel that a particular suggestion inspires you. I think @cerberus has the right idea. Trust yourself, you will not please them all.
You’ve done good work, and people are making suggestions and commenting because, at least from where I’m sitting, they’re passionate about what you have done!
I’m guilty of throwing out a lot of feedback and suggestions for that very reason, and honestly I’m just happy to have them even looked at and to help. But please, please be willing to tune me out as well, because I am worried that trying to please everyone can become overwhelming.
Thanks for taking my previous comment in consideration, and I’m glad it helped in some way. I know it was a big one, and I also hope breaking it down in sections made it more digestible too.
Finally:If you’re concerned about your affinity NPCs appealing to people or being involved in the plot in certain ways, as per your tangent about them - l say go with whichever NPCs fit naturally or inspire you for a scene. Honestly, while Kweht does appeal most to me, the doctor IS the one who’s pretty core to the plot. That in mind, I just hope that Kweht (or even another NPC, w/e floats your boat as you write more) gets the necessary development for some romance, like the doctor, even if he’s not involved much or at all in the central plot the way she is. Ultimately, having both male and female options for hangouts and romance are gonna cover a lot of your bases for audience appeal.
Being able to play as a male character pulled me in immediately, and seeing hints of both female and male romance brewing in the future, regardless of the character’s gender choice, kind of cemented it. And accounting for both options also is a nice gesture in the WG gaming sphere, which is heavily slanted towards female protagonists and generally written for a straight audience.
For my part, whatever it’s worth, both Halessie and Kweht (and just about everybody else) are so dang wholesome it’s all good.
Edit: I do have one bug to note - starting up a new game and was fiddling around a bit, and it seems like if you make a custom race at the very beginning the weight descriptions in your bathroom are consistently from the ‘lost weight to here’ perspective. (Weight descriptions when outside the room still function normally.)
Also there’s the tail bit that I think somebody else mentioned already - when making a custom race, the fleshy tail option is an inactive link (fluffy tail does work).
Hey, Ill look at the bathroom stuff now.
But is the tail thing from 0.61 or are you on 0.6
@Cordite Was this a normal custom race?
Thanks for finding that, I had messed around with something to fix an issue and created another instead. Gonna upload a fix since thats kinda big imo.
Ah whoops, 0.6. Hadn’t noticed .61 was out, sorry.
Edit: Just checked and the description thing is still an issue in .61, so that tail fix didn’t also happen to fix this.
And yeah, normal (non-feral) custom race.